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[–]shogi_x 4487 points4488 points  (429 children)

In case anyone was still unclear on whether this was terrorism, a sitting congressman is refusing to do his job because he's afraid of their threats of violence.

[–]surroundedbywolves 1808 points1809 points  (225 children)

Which is just perfectly making the case for why they should’ve voted yes.

[–]erc80 625 points626 points  (70 children)

Sounds like some Republican leaders don’t fully grasp what “refuse to negotiate with terrorists” means or the meaning of the word “terrorist”.

[–]Rando-namo 515 points516 points  (39 children)

No, they know what a terrorist is.

The difference here is that it's you or your kids they send to die at the hands of terrorists far away from this land that I love when they pull their tough guy act.

These terrorists are right here and congress and their family are now accessible.

Much like everything else with Republicans, they talk a ton of shit until the problem affects/impacts them.

[–]StarmanSuper76 336 points337 points 2 (18 children)

The Republican credo: "We love to fuck around, but we should never have to find out."

[–]MassiveFajiit 32 points33 points  (4 children)

Holy shit, you distilled Republicanism jingoism to it's bare elements

[–]Omggggggggggggggj 15 points16 points  (3 children)

There really is no difference between Republicanism and jingoism these days.

[–]MassiveFajiit 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I mean when Bolton and Cheney have thrived in the party for decades, jingoism has been an integral part of the platform for a while.

[–]Omggggggggggggggj 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Totally agree. I would say it has been synonymous with jingoism since at least 1994 and Newt Gingrich but nearly synonymous since 1980 and Reagan.

[–]1000Airplanes 3 points4 points  (0 children)

with a good helping of fascism this time around.

[–]theyetisc2 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Also these are "their" terrorists that they fully believe they'll eventually be able to regain control over, and point back at the rest of us again.

These republicans should be removed from office for dereliction of duty, negotiating with terrorists, sedition, and a host of other charges.

[–]Simaul 407 points408 points  (129 children)

Was a house vote. Dems have the house. We got to see some “theater” from the right yesterday.

[–]huntrshado 73 points74 points  (9 children)

Should have been a slam dunk unanimous vote on Monday to impeach and pass to the Senate. The Right is pathetic.

[–]this_dust 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Cue the bad actors.

[–]ponchoskunk420 50 points51 points  (0 children)

And why they shouldn’t be a congressman.

[–]Repli3rd 326 points327 points  (63 children)

Are we really buying that most of them are doing it out of fear over saftey and not out of fear of being primaried by a Trump loon in the next election cycle?

In my opinion this is by far more about them hanging onto their personal power than anything else.

[–]Pseudobeau 151 points152 points  (23 children)

Terrorists that know what actually scares you and leveraging that to manipulate you through fear is still terrorism. Threatening your family as well is just tittie-sprinkles at that point.

Edit: Folks have commented on this, and made some really good points. I agree, threats to "not vote for you" are not terrorism, it's Democracy, and i shouldn't be making political activism sound like some kind of social disorder or dangerous precedent. Threats of violence, absolutely that's terrorism, but political activism is a positive thing. Tittie-Sprinkles are also a positive thing and should not be associated with terrorism.

[–]Repli3rd 77 points78 points  (11 children)

Terrorists that know what actually scares you and leveraging that to manipulate you through fear is still terrorism.

I agree wholeheartedly, I just think the majority of them are motivated by the prospects of personal gain than fear of violence.

I think the threat of violence is a sob story they are propagating so they can shift their responsibility and present themselves as victims as opposed to co-conspirators

[–]Pseudobeau 32 points33 points  (4 children)

I agree with YOU, lol. And that is why this meme is so damning; it not only turns their own words on them, but challenges them to admit they're being manipulated by a voting block that they have lost control over. It truly is a delicious time to be watching politics.

[–]jump-blues-5678 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Those Mfrs have taken playing victim to an art form. Meyrl Streep could take lessons from these sad pathetic snowflakes

[–]tweettard1968 31 points32 points  (16 children)

Chances are it’s a little bit of both. They made this bed and now they are fucked because of it. I would certainly file this under the unintended consequences, but they knew the risk and are all guilty of collusion. They are continuing to spread the big lie. Until everyone comes out, including the fucking fat orange man and admits it was a free and fair election we are not going to get past this

[–]sonofaresiii 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Are we really buying that most of them are doing it out of fear over saftey

No. Not me, anyway. I think it's 50/50 their warped versions of politics (win at all costs, never lose/never surrender) and genuine belief that Trump is right (they're not immune from the cult).

Remember some of those congresspeople were aiding the insurrection terrorists. They're not afraid of them, they're with them.

[–]MCA2142 40 points41 points  (7 children)

I wonder why no one has said to them something along the lines of, “that’s a real problem with your base, don’t you think? Why did you grow your base to act this way?”

[–]SeabrookMiglla 31 points32 points  (23 children)

I mean they still use the ‘if we tax billionaires they will leave the country!’

I’m like good, fuck em.

[–]ihaveabigorangecat 10 points11 points  (12 children)

Lol they can leave the country. Just means they'll have to pay taxes to whatever country they go to in addition to the US.

[–]necroreefer 26 points27 points  (10 children)

If there is one thing I've learned from 9/11 it's that terrorism against the United States works.

[–]MJMurcott 17 points18 points  (1 child)

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic".

These aren't just words they have a specific meaning and reason why they are uttered BEFORE they take office.

[–]Gabzalez 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Let’s not forget that other congresspeople in the same party are aiding the terrorists.

[–]Taurius 1485 points1486 points  (386 children)

This is what pissed me off with Pence and rest of the GOP who didn't vote to impeach/25th. Pence damn well knew if he invoked the 25th, he and his family would be in danger by his OWN people. Cowards and stupid morons who are reaping what they sowed. But what gives me no hope for these people, they blame the Dems for this. WTF...

[–]richtermani 600 points601 points  (265 children)

One of my college professors said it was antifa and wouldn't listen to reason. I lost a good friend over this as well for claiming shit like that

[–]ugottabekiddingmee 443 points444 points  (120 children)

Losing friends over this sucks. The first time I heard my good friend tell me that all the news is fake, my stomach turned. I felt like I find out she's a meth addict. Apologies to meth addicts.

[–]PurpleNuggets 239 points240 points  (29 children)

"You can only trust Trump because everyone else hates Trump and has a reason to lie" was what i heard that made me realize how cultish this was and not just a matter of discussion.

[–]ailee43 108 points109 points  (51 children)

fuck, i heard that line from my own mother last week, who has her whole life been largely apolitical. I was IN DC when this shit went down, and she told me "you cant believe what you hear on the news" when i mentioned my personal experience.

[–]UnwashedApple 44 points45 points  (48 children)

Why was there a rally in the first place on the day of the votes certification? Why did Trump attend?

[–]SqueezeTheShamansTit 11 points12 points  (20 children)

It was a stop the steal rally. In their idiotic heads they thought they would be successful in holding them hostage and choosing trump I guess. In my opinion, he’s been getting them all riled up for months. He knew about the threats that were online on public Alt right sites warning of violence and death. He knew what was planned. Before trump spoke Rudy said something about a trial by combat I don’t recall exactly. And I don’t remember at all what Donald Junior said. And then Trump spent two hours getting them angry and riled up talking about all these different bullshit lies about the election being stolen. And then basically said March and fight. He knew exactly what he was doing and what was going to happen. Not to mention, the FBI warned the capital police the day before about the threats.

[–]bxyrk 38 points39 points  (3 children)

Ex-methhead here. You're good

[–]MySockHurts 102 points103 points  (21 children)

I’m sure that college’s dean, the university president, and the local media would love to hear what that college professor is saying to their students. I’d recommend passing that along.

[–]Fake_William_Shatner 149 points150 points  (16 children)

I'm pouring one out to remember all my Homies killed by ANTIFA....

I guess I'm going to drink all of this, then.

[–]pegothejerk 79 points80 points  (15 children)

Remember all those BLM assassins? Me neither.

[–]Fake_William_Shatner 27 points28 points  (7 children)

I'm really angry though, at all the things the protestors possibly could have done to us.

[–]dubadub 23 points24 points  (6 children)

Shit, it's the Bowling Green Massacre all over again. 8x10 glossy photos and all.

[–]maliciousorstupid 47 points48 points  (5 children)

college professors said it was antifa

so he knows something the FBI doesn't, eh? he should probably talk to them

[–]sonofaresiii 14 points15 points  (4 children)

The FBI is in on it!! Obvs.

[–]MyBoyBernard 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Step 1: make a conclusion

Step 2: gather evidence

[–]maliciousorstupid 8 points9 points  (0 children)

damn deep state goes deeper than we thought!

[–]glxygal 48 points49 points  (18 children)

ANTIFA is the GOP boogeyman

[–]burgle_ur_turts 61 points62 points  (6 children)

Anti-fascism is the GOP boogeyman. Because they’re fascists.

[–]PurpleNuggets 33 points34 points  (4 children)

They will tell you Fascism is still better than Socialism or Communism, so it's okay.

[–]PurpleNuggets 3 points4 points  (3 children)

MS-13 wasn't polling very well in focus groups

[–]TheMooseIsBlue 40 points41 points  (6 children)

A friend said yesterday that it was no different than the Women’s March 3 years ago, that also stormed the Capitol. There’s no reasoning with this.

[–]UnwashedApple 31 points32 points  (3 children)

When they beat that Capitol Policeman to death with their purses?

[–]CurryMustard 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Your liberal elitist college professor? /s

[–]tkap91 25 points26 points  (6 children)

Yikes, sounds like you may want to look into transferring

[–]richtermani 13 points14 points  (5 children)

Past professor

[–]JP091404 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Yeah I’m definitely not as close with my grandma anymore...

[–]veneim 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah, not the same as a college professor, but I lost this woman who I was seeing who I thought was super attractive. She started posting “evidence” that antifa was at the riot and I had no choice but to confront her about it, and we haven’t spoken since and won’t again

[–]LittleWitchAries 9 points10 points  (3 children)

One of my college professors said it was antifa and wouldn't listen to reason.

People proving once again that an "education" doesn't make a person educated nor smart.

[–]Mysterious_Lesions 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I have some physicians in my circle. Can confirm that they may be good at medicine but absolutely medieval in their opinions on other things.

[–]mortalcoil1 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Do what you feel is right. I completely understand, I haven't talked to my mom in a good bit, but isolation leads to further radicalization, and I'm not blaming you or insulting you or saying you are lacking in any way, but the best way to stop further radicalization is to at least keep up with these people and continue, at least from time to time, but it is important to set boundaries from the very start. It's just a bad situation.

My dad died last December from Alzheimer's. For the last decade or so, it was the same old story across the US, Fox News on 24/7, but as the disease progressed, he started getting more angry at Obama because Fox News told him to be.

However, by the time Trump was inaugurated, he was too far gone to really understand or make any new memories. In the last 4 years, he wasn't able to really speak coherently. In the last 2 years, he wasn't able to speak at all. I am sad he is dead. I am sad that he had to waste away with that terrible disease for so long, but the silver lining is that I didn't have to lose my dad to Trump.

[–]UnwashedApple 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My brother listens to Rush & Levin & tells me all their lies & expects me to believe them like he does.

[–]Zywiec1976 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Professor of idiocracy

[–]Dingus-ate-your-baby 75 points76 points  (0 children)

"If the Dems would just get out of the way and let Trump become an unelected King, the violence never would have happened. Also they're the REAL fascists."

[–]dpdxguy 21 points22 points  (0 children)

It can't be that surprising to you at this point that Pence is a sniveling craven coward.

Ditto for most of the rest of the GOP "leadership."

[–]Avondubs 989 points990 points  (86 children)

It's not negotiating with, it's submitting to a terrorist.

[–]Thurak0 343 points344 points  (13 children)

one could even say... surrendering

[–]Tagliavini 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The Capitulating Cowards

[–]j_la 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Surrendering implies initial opposition or disagreement.

[–]beaniemonk 47 points48 points  (47 children)


I'm just gonna remove this from here, because I think in hindsight it was insensitive to the fear and danger people are feeling. A lot of good replies gave me some perspective on this. Maybe it was just the defiant side of me acting out. Intimidation tends to have the opposite effect for better or worse.

[–]SallyScott52 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I feel like a lot of the ones theyve identified are combat vets. I mean they might not be the smartest, but they are trained

[–]down_vote_russians 124 points125 points  (2 children)

imagine if bush said he didnt want consequences after 9/11

[–]Fake_William_Shatner 619 points620 points  (48 children)

AOC and Pence have so much in common; Death threats from the same people.

[–]CarpeNivem 335 points336 points  (37 children)

The clearest proof there is that these people's opinions aren't actually political, but rather, purely tribal.

[–]RIPMYPOOPCHUTE 149 points150 points  (29 children)

I just don’t understand the whole loyalty and giving up freedom for an orange bafoon who doesn’t give two shits about them.

[–]sub1ime 71 points72 points  (2 children)

They're a bunch of hopeless and lost children, as soon as they find a better talking head that gives them answers they want to hear, they will dump Trump too. There are already people unhappy with him for doing those videos where he's now apparently "condemning the violence" (also what a funny coincidence that video releases the day he's impeached by the House 🤔)

[–]CarpeNivem 29 points30 points  (2 children)

He hates the same people they do, therefore they love him. He makes them feel their hate is valid, and since that's something no one else is doing, their love for that validation is strong.

[–]Drifter_Lux 28 points29 points  (1 child)

It could be the unprecedentedly prolific and precision-targeted propaganda.

[–]triplab 267 points268 points  (5 children)

FFS. The core job requirement is to protect and defend the constitution. If you are not up to the job, cool. No problem. Please step aside and let someone willing to do the job step up.

[–]AmericanVVitch 61 points62 points  (1 child)

FFS. The core job requirement is to protect and defend the constitution.

Excuse me, if that is the case then why isn't anyone making me do my job? Checkmate libtards.

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[–]barrel-getya 220 points221 points  (20 children)

Not afraid to send troops into battle though are they?

[–]MajorBensonWPayne 96 points97 points  (0 children)

Of course not. They aren’t in danger by sending other peoples families.

[–]Red_Dox 54 points55 points  (11 children)

People who actually want a war, are never the ones to be found anywhere near the frontlines.

[–]UAintMyFriendPalooka 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Rich man’s war; poor man’s fight.

[–]well_hung_over 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The party of unironically using "Fortunate Son" at political rallies.

[–]GrandTusam 50 points51 points  (11 children)

Dont be daft, it doesnt sound like negotiating with terrorists, sounds like bowing down to terrorists.

[–]glxygal 49 points50 points  (1 child)

Can we agree that if they’re acting in response to threats, that these members are compromised and no longer acting in good faith?

[–]Grandmaster_Flab 113 points114 points  (15 children)

They are shopping around for excuses to their complicity that sound good to liberals. Its like all the ‘unity’ talk.

[–]FappingAwesome 74 points75 points  (12 children)

Everytime I hear a Republican say "Now is the time for UNity" I want to punch them in the face.

[–]Matrixneo42 24 points25 points  (2 children)

They should have removed trump from office LAST JANUARY. Those stupid mother fuckers.

[–]GogglesPisano 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Especially the ones that just voted to overturn the election a week ago, after being invaded by a violent seditious mob.

[–]AmericanVVitch 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Just offer a handshake after and repeat, "Now is this time for Unity."

[–]Sandite 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And I think this talk needs to be rejected until everyone single person that had anything to do with this insurrection gets hit with the justice bat, HARD.

[–]chrislsu 69 points70 points  (13 children)

The very people who talk tough and say they would never negotiate with a terrorist are afraid of the Domestic Terrorists in the United States. What cowards.

[–]rongvk83 17 points18 points  (12 children)

AOC has something to gain from sticking her neck out, and has the backing of her constituents, these guys on the other hand have everything to lose. One word from Trump and they can kiss their political asses goodbye.

[–]SporkOfThor 62 points63 points  (14 children)

Appeasing terrorists. The word you are searching for is "appease".

As in "Give me Liberty, or give me-please don't hurt me I'll do whatever you say".

Appeasement was a major talking point for Republicans not long ago, something they accused Democrats of.

Trump combines and invokes in others all the worst human faults - greed, boasting, lust, dishonesty, racism, gluttony, laziness, etc. - cowering is the inevitable end for villains. Sniveling cowards have no place in our government, and the politicians cowering before or siding with the mob have no place in government, or even as Americans.

[–]Xianio 40 points41 points  (15 children)

This is what a coup looks like folks.

It's not tanks rolling down main street. It's a scared/complicit group of govt officials bowing down to the dictator who refuses to stop pushing to overturn/ignore an election.

Frankly, anyone who thinks this is over is being naive. I'd wager strongly that shits going to happen on the 20th.

[–]romworld 16 points17 points  (4 children)

If/when the Qultists finally realize they’ve been lied to, they’ll never vote GOP again. That’s why these cowards won’t put country first and hop off the Trump Train.

[–]_N_A_T_E_ 75 points76 points  (0 children)

Its the same people making the threats to AOC and GOP who oppose trump. Domestic terrorists

[–]Dmav210 15 points16 points  (0 children)

“We don’t negotiate with terrorists... unless they are Republican right-wing terrorists, then we do whatever they want no questions asked”

[–]dangoloI ☑oted 2020 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Deplorable was too nice a word to describe your "constituents" wasn't it?

Glad to see you openly admitting it, sweaty.

Remove Cult45

[–]weelluuuu 29 points30 points  (11 children)

Remember they did vote to impeach Clinton for telling a lie, 1 fucking lie. The GOP is drowning themselves in hypocrisy.

[–]Sproketz 19 points20 points  (3 children)

A lie that only hurt his wife. A lie that really had no effect on the American people.

But insurrection? Sedition? No problem.

[–]greevous00 9 points10 points  (3 children)

...and it was a lie to cover up the fact that he got a blow job so his wife wouldn't know...

I mean... this isn't even in the same GALAXY as the bullshit that's been going on for the past 4 years, and especially the last 2 months.

[–]unknownmortalorcha 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Excuses after excuse after excuse after excuse

[–]VocationFumes 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's almost as if caving to fascists is a BAD idea, who could've seen that one coming?

[–]204_no_content 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Can I get a link to an article about this (the GOP guy, not AOC)? Thanks!

[–]ZenMonkey47 11 points12 points  (11 children)

I feel like, given the circumstances, they should have used a secret ballot.

[–]dustinechos 14 points15 points  (10 children)

The thing is there's almost no chance he'll get impeached in the senate, even if there was a secret vote.

But with an open vote and with the very real odds that we'll have another Oklahoma City Bombing level event in the next 2 years, it's good to have a roll call of who is willing to stand up to white nationalist terrorism. After the next event (which sadly is almost guaranteed) the vote to impeach becomes a political attack ad.

[–]ZenMonkey47 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Let's be honest, Republicans DGAF. At least with a secret vote, several of them could have done the right thing while faking outrage to their supporters.

[–]tazebot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Afraid of harm from trump insurrectionists (the only term by which they should be referred to) but in speeches only said they were afraid of so called 'cancel culture'.

[–]quarantined-2020 5 points6 points  (2 children)

It's not negotiating with the terrorists, it's giving in to terrorists.

[–]SparkleD8 6 points7 points  (5 children)

I'd say grow a pair, but a AOC proves a VJ provides more courage and leadership.

[–]GlideStrife 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Negotiating? Negotiation means both sides game. You mean caving to terrorism.

[–]mystad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Terrorist terrorized by own terrorists

[–]FloorShrimp 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm surprised I havent seen a comparison to those that signed the Declaration of Independence, knowing what it meant for them and their families

[–]Partsgod 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's worse, they are cooperating with terrorists to harm the United States.