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[–]Sea-Click-P99 2302 points2303 points 222 (60 children)

It’s snowing sideways.

[–]itsaride 1304 points1305 points 23 (25 children)

Thanks Ollie.

[–]The_Kadeshi 360 points361 points  (17 children)

You want this dog?

[–]BudMasterMcSwagatron 241 points242 points  (16 children)

No thank you Ollie.

[–]digipengi 67 points68 points  (15 children)

You check your TCP/IP settings?

[–]GrundleBuzz 56 points57 points  (10 children)

I SAW A FISH!

[–]T-Fro 25 points26 points  (7 children)

Space weather!

[–]makeskidskill 13 points14 points  (6 children)

SWIMMIN’ HOLE!

(My all time favorite Black-U Weather News forecast)

[–]kejigoto[🍰] 78 points79 points  (8 children)

We been through every kind of snow there is. Little bitty stingin' snow... and big ol' fat flakes of snow. Snow that flew in sideways. And sometimes snow even seemed to come straight up from underneath.

[–]tmp729 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Shoot, it even snowed at night

[–]JohnnyTreeTrunks 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Outstanding, Gump! This is a new company record! If it weren't such a waste of a fine enlisted man I'd recommend you for OCS! You are gonna be a general someday, Gump!

[–]anotherwankusername 2598 points2599 points  (952 children)

What do you do in this situation? Just stop, keep your lights on and wait for visibility to improve?

[–]cec772 3198 points3199 points  (442 children)

My grandparents told a story (from about 40 years ago) where they were caught in something like this, but it was blowing at them. They thought they were driving slow until a truck driver knocked on their window asking if they were ok. It completely shocked them because with the vertigo they thought they were actually moving. the trucker had them follow his hazard lights until the next rest stop.

Edit: Didn't expect this to blow up... but to address the most common responses to all the people saying: "They didn't have speedometers back then?" Yes, yes they did. Cars also had brakes before the last decade which didn't prevent a rash of elderly people from driving through multiple farmers markets. What can I say... seniors aren't known for their quick thinking. And if you've ever driven through the mountains of Colorado (I don't actually know where they were driving, but I was born there so quite possible) then you know the feeling of going downhill while riding the brakes to avoid building up speed. Your foot doesn't touch the gas for a long while... (of course you should be driving in a lower gear instead) My guess is something like that where they thought they were 'coasting' without a foot on the gas.. anyway.. they died many years ago so unfortunately I can't ask for more details. I just remember my grandmothers reaction as she relived it, wile my grandfather retold the story. (she was much like Dana Carvey as the 'Church lady' on SNL..)

[–]sabdotzed 1192 points1193 points  (190 children)

God lord thats scary, good guy truck driver. Makes me grateful that we get 1cm of snow in the UK at most

[–]Yogi-Breh 634 points635 points  (106 children)

1cm of snow? Better shut the airport and schools

[–]sabdotzed 441 points442 points  (46 children)

Daily Mail: "BEAST FROM THE EAST"

[–]Yatakak 132 points133 points  (9 children)

Tha trains cannae handle it cap'n!

[–]prince_0f_thieves 40 points41 points  (6 children)

I’m givin’ it all she’s got sir- OH SWEET MOTHER MARY THERE’S A SINGLE WET LEAF ON THE TRACK!

[–]GonzosWhiteShark 26 points27 points  (0 children)

WELL FLY HER APART THEN!

[–]joemckie 41 points42 points  (5 children)

To be fair that was a really scary time... I nearly slipped down a tiny hill!

[–]UnmarkedDoor 17 points18 points  (4 children)

But you're ok now, right?

[–]htothebtothe123 24 points25 points  (22 children)

In fairness the actual Beast from the East was a nightmare for a lot of the UK, we got about a foot of snow and the only time I've ever been stuck in a snow storm like the one in the video was back then. I was stuck on a rural road along with cars in front of me and behind me, just had to sit there for 20 mins until it died down as you could literally see about 5cm in front of the windscreen and no further

[–]SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS 24 points25 points  (8 children)

My heating broke during the Beast from the East. My bedroom is a converted attic, those three days SUCKED.

[–]GikeM 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I went hiking in the lake District on Christmas day and came scrambled up a hill to come to a clearing of felled trees that I thought was a hidden lumber plot. Turns out from an information plaque I read that it was the damage from beast from the east. Those trees were huge and yet didn't stand a chance.

[–]zaine77 15 points16 points  (42 children)

That sounds like the southern states here in America as well. If you don’t get snow often you do not know how to drive in it, as well as the state not having the equipment to handle it.

[–]Kitchen_Items_Fetish 65 points66 points  (29 children)

It’s funny, as an Australian I grew up thinking the UK had magical snowy winters with frozen rivers/lakes and white Christmases and the lot. I thought London was a winter wonderland from December through til March. When you grow up somewhere where it doesn’t really get cold, you just assume that the UK/Europe/US is like all the Xmas movies during winter.

I felt a bit less jealous of your winters once I learned they’re really just bleak and chilly and disappointing.

[–]Casiofx-83ES 36 points37 points  (10 children)

Weirdly, there was a period of time around ~1990 to 2000 where we did have snow pretty much every christmas, at least in the north. I have many memories of snow days home from school, sledging down main roads, going to see Christmas lights and fireworks in the snow. Depending on when you grew up, it's probable that it was like you imagined.

[–]Slimybum 17 points18 points  (8 children)

I thought it was just me. I remeber white Christmas' and snow in nov/ December when I was younger. Thought I'd made it up.

[–]Casiofx-83ES 5 points6 points  (6 children)

I had to look up some stats to verify that I didn't have a childhood bias before I posted this - it does appear there was more snow around then!

[–]WingedLing 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Damn. That's rough :(

I wonder if there is a global cause to this lack of snow.

[–]Mazo[🍰] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Some sort of.... warming, perhaps?

[–]Jesuschrist2011 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No. No, can't be. Maybe we just haven't burnt enough coal yet?

[–]NewLeaseOnLine 8 points9 points  (4 children)

It's weird to realise that Australia, the driest inhabited continent on Earth, still gets more snow than the UK.

[–]light_to_shaddow 4 points5 points  (1 child)

When Dickens was around winters were frozen rivers you could skate and have winter fairs on. It just happens he kind of codified Christmas when he wrote "A Christmas carol". The U.K. is well North of places like Chicago and the Midwest we just have the jet stream warming us.

Climate change has made the U.K. into a two season country. Floods and drought.

[–]Bedlam_ 27 points28 points  (7 children)

That last 'snowstorm' (in 2018?) was crazy though. I used to live in Canada so am used to harsh winter, but it was handled so badly. I work and live in London but made the decision to nope out, leave work early and stay at a friends place in Kent just because I knew I could most likely make it to there quicker, and I did (even if it did take double the time, only getting a train half way, then a bus, then walking). If I'd gotten my usual train home I would've been one of those insanely unlucky commuters who got stuck on the toiletless trains for hours, well into the night / early hours.

I know it doesn't make sense for the UK to spend so much on being prepared when a 'big' storm happens because it does so rarely, but that was pretty brutal.

[–]feasantly_plucked 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Oh tell me about it. I can recall seeing people walking around Hackney in the first day of freezing weather in a decade, and they didn't actually know what ice was. I was stood at a bus stop watching people in their office attire trying to speedwalk across a puddle of black ice with inevitably dire consequences. Absurd.

The individual people might not know much about snow and ice but the city surely does, and it did nowt to warn commuters and so on to take basic precautions.

[–]Demonic_Dugong 7 points8 points  (3 children)

You been up here to Scotland recently?

[–]sabdotzed 6 points7 points  (2 children)

My mates in Edinburgh building snowman whilst all I get is grey skies and shit rain, London and the South eats never gets snow 😫

[–]htothebtothe123 6 points7 points  (2 children)

That probably varies quite significantly depending on which part of the UK you're in - I'm currently looking out of my window at about 12cm of snow! This is the worst I've seen it since 2018 though. Location: village on top of a hill, County Durham

[–]ElicitCS 8 points9 points  (10 children)

Um mate have you looked the window?

[–]Ryuzaki_63 4 points5 points  (2 children)

3ft of snow on the ground, black ice, -5 real feel.

Every OAP: "Time to go get the paper"

[–]deafmute88 59 points60 points  (6 children)

My dad told me this story too. Except, the truck driver is a ghost and murders them with a hook. No survivors.

[–]mach_250 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s why you should always leave a note

[–]bonafart 45 points46 points  (11 children)

Experiance of a pilot. Imagin its pitch black all your feelings tell you you are OK. Then bang you've hit a field nose first

[–]HeartofSaturdayNight 106 points107 points  (152 children)

I don't get it. How do you not feel the car moving or see the speedometer?

[–]OpticGenocide 244 points245 points  (63 children)

Your eyes can trick you. It's like when you're parked and the car next to you starts moving it can trick you into thinking you're moving instead.

[–]someguyfromky 98 points99 points  (16 children)

and you are like small panic, oh shit and pump the brakes and check to see if you are in gear or not but then you realize you are still in park. weird feeling.

[–]DaveCootchie 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Like when you drive pass a stopped train and it looks like its moving in your peripheral vision.

[–]Gskgsk 25 points26 points  (16 children)

Its possible on the top of ski slopes for it to be so windy that you can't tell if you are still stationery.

[–]John_Wang 27 points28 points  (4 children)

I was on the top of Blackcomb (at Whistler Blackcomb) last year with high winds and visibility at maybe 10 feet. It's insane how your mind fucks with you in conditions like that. I was standing still and a wave of vertigo hit where it felt like I was moving; had to just sit down at that point before skiing down. Ended up grouping together with a handful of other skiiers and boarders who were having the same difficulty. We all eventually made it down safely, but good lord it was not a good time

[–]Beard_o_Bees 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I've been in a similar situation in Utah. Basically had to crouch and stick a pole in the snow to keep from being moved by the wind.

You then have to try to 'time' the gusts before you try to get down slope to a more sheltered position. They're usually pretty good about closing the lifts if the weather starts getting hairy, but it's totally possible to be already on the lift and the last one off before they call it.

[–]Tough-Rice 14 points15 points  (1 child)

My dad used to tell the story of when he was a boy and his parents had parked either on the top of a cliff or the edge of a bay (I can't remember) after a family day out. The car next to them reversed really slowly and it made my grandad think their car was rolling forwards and he stamped on the break pedal so hard he snapped it out of terror that his family was about to plummet into the sea

[–]SwizzlestickLegs 18 points19 points  (5 children)

The wind alone would make it feel like the car was moving. In those conditions you are NOT looking at your speedo, specially if it feels like you're moving from all the wind.

[–]quebecesti 34 points35 points  (23 children)

LPT If you are stuck in snow with your car, turn the engine off. Every year people die because of this. If the car exaust is not free and the car is under snow, the co2 will fill your car and kill you.

[–]_stoneslayer_ 36 points37 points  (8 children)

Maybe it would be better to clear the exhaust pipe occasionally? It's going to get very cold very quick in snowy conditions

[–]quebecesti 27 points28 points  (2 children)

The best thing to do is to carry a warm blanket in your car at all time during winter season.

It happens here in Québec every year. Car get stuck in a ditch in the middle of no where during a snowstorm and they find the people dead a couple of days later.

Just to be clear it's not because there is snow in the pipe but because the car is literally under snow.

[–]Bwooreader 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Had the same happen to me! Thought we were driving but I was getting nervous and asked someone to hold out and see where we were. Turns out the answer was in a snowbank.

[–]Rashaverak 291 points292 points 4 (53 children)

When I’ve been in this situation in the past it was when working mines/exploration sites in the arctic. So only loosely relatable, but this is how we would deal with a zeroViz storm like that, which was very common occurrence.

It’s a trade off, no public roads or civilians to worry about, but were also a 1 hour flight off an ice runway (if the planes can fly) or a 12 hour drive down the ice road away from civilization (if the road is open.) So to say safety is number one when there’s only two paramedics on a site with 50-100 people, is an understatement.

First thing to know, your shift-start toolbox meeting always has a weather report which is usually a print out of the same GFA 0, +6, and +12 hour forecast from Nav Canada that the pilots use to determine their flight status. (There is no better weather report for the arctic region. That and yr.no because the Norwegians know wtf is up.)

So before you even sign the toolbox meeting form, everyone knows a storm is coming if it’s even likely. When we head out in a day like that we are expecting to hear a “hold in place” order at some point.

Once you’re in the truck and seeing what you see in OP’s vid you’ll either be the one calling dispatch over the repeater to let them know you’ve found the storm, or you’ll receive the hold in place order over the radio. Once that order is given everyone takes turns on the dispatch channel to give an update of their location and who’s in the vehicle/building while dispatch will update the “pinout” map to know exactly where everyone is. They already have a good pin out of where ppl are supposed to be, this is just confirming.

If you try to move without express instructions while the hold in place is active you will never work on that site again, and maybe some other sites if your maneuver was dumb enough.

At that point you just wait and stay warm. Keep the truck/equipment running at all costs. Also why anyone who forgets to fully refill their machine or truck at the start of the shift can be blacklisted from the site forever. It’s your life at risk if you forget to refuel and run out of diesel on hour 6 of a crazy day long storm.

That’s it. You literally just sit there and wait for hours at a time until the visibility returns enough across the site to remove the hold in place order and resume work. In that time you’ll be asked for regular checkins over the radio. There are some other minor SOP details that are important that I’ve left out for time, but that’s basically all the rank and file deal with.

If you’re in ops you spend the whole time on the GPS/sat phone with air charters/town-side logistics getting flights ready to swoop in after the storm if there was a serious incident. That side of things is sweaty because you’re literally preparing for the worst, but it’s mundane also.

If there is a situation during the hold like someone injured or a truck almost out of fuel dispatch will send either a crew in a snowcat or a Hagglund to go and assist. They are usually lead by the most experienced ice road building foreman on site and they’ll nav by GPS to follow the road to get to the person in distress. It’s extremely dangerous, even in an amphibious vehicle, so this action would be considered a “near miss” and the person who ran out of fuel is probably fired.

I was on a site once where two drillers had to be rescued from a drill shack by a Hagglund on the 26th hour of a hold order that lasted 34 hours total. That storm was Beaufort scale 11 for almost 30 of those hours, scale12 for a couple hours in the middle.

The wind was so bad it blew the roof off the drill shack and snuffed out their diesel drip stove. They huddled up under their emergency blankets and piled a bunch of hoses and shit on top of them to try and hide from the storm. Their radio antenna snapped off and after they went unheard from on the next radio check in the team was sent to them.

Both survived, with some cold injuries each. The only reason they survived was because of the strict SOPs that got a crew to them within an hour of them missing a radio check. SOPs that are written in the blood of the people who didn’t survive the previous SOPs.

So, that’s how we deal with it in a “professional” working environment. Literally stop moving until otherwise instructed.

The best thing you can do in this situation as a civilian driving on public roads is to look at a weather report before you leave the house and then make the smart call to stay at home instead.

Once you’re in that situation you’re already fucked and it’s only a matter of luck if you get out safety.

[–]ROtis42069 66 points67 points  (6 children)

That was incredibly interesting. You don’t ever think of your line of work, that it’s a life threatening job. But it 100% is completely dangerous. I grew up in Massachusetts and went to college in New Hampshire. I’ve seen some storms in my day. Nothing anything close to what you’ve probably experienced. It makes me really appreciate how tough and smart the pioneers in the olden days were. They didn’t have the knowledge we have now about predicting weather models or long range communications. Yet they still somehow survived and thrived. It’s incredible to think about.

Also reading that “SOP are written in the blood of workers who didn’t survive...” makes your job sound like the most dangerous, scariest yet badass profession out there. Very well written bud!!

[–]Rashaverak 39 points40 points  (2 children)

Heh. Cheers.

The written in blood thing is a trope we rake the crews with in safety meetings. It’s 100% true but also redundant.

Like, where the fire extinguishers are placed in an office building, and restricting who can touch the coffee maker are also rules “written in blood” hahah.

100% on the pioneers. GPS, helicopters, and diesel powered hydraulics are a massive cheat code for navigating the wilderness. I’m pretty sure the pioneers would just laugh at us.

Some of the geologists students I’ve met are only alive still because they were barely smart enough to pack spare AAs for their GPS and remember to upload the correct waypoint file. Those kids would have been gonzo a generation or 2 back.

[–]ROtis42069 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Ya Jesus that’s crazy to think a pair of batteries is the difference between life and death. The pioneers definitely would laugh at us and think we were soft as puppy shit for how coddled we are when it comes to the wilderness.

[–]Rashaverak 8 points9 points  (0 children)

For sure. There are still people out there with that OG pioneer spirit, and have the cleverness and strength of will to back it up, but they are becoming very rare.

Mostly these jobs have become good transient money makers for young students. You put in your bush time and then try to snag a kush office job somewhere in a nice city or large mine site asap.

Market forces are just as responsible for that as GPS is. Sometimes you just need a Donkey for donkey work.

[–]Firewolf420 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your post that was super interesting!

[–]frumundacheeze 718 points719 points  (182 children)

I would pull over just incase some nut job thinks getting to work on time is more important than being alive

[–]spicy_pickle_party 214 points215 points  (134 children)

How would you know you’re pulling onto the shoulder and not completely driving off the road?

[–]thinkimasofa 72 points73 points  (14 children)

Holy shit, there's a LOT of bad advice here. You often don't know. There's snow on the road, there's snow on the side of the road, there's snow in the ditch that's piled up and even with the road. On a 2 lane highway, people may be driving in the middle of the road, so what may "feel" like you're off the road is just you going fully into your lane. 99% of the time there will not be light poles on the side of the road if the conditions get to this extent - you're in the wide open. You can maybe find electrical poles, but there's a chance you can't even see them, they may take off in another direction, or you're so focused on the road the last thing you want to do is be trying to find them. Plus, there can be car sized snow drifts in the road, so focusing on the road is far more important than trying to locate things off the road. You can sometimes see the mile markers on the side of the interstate, so those are about the best reference points to look for without making things worse.
Slow WAY down. Put your 4 ways on so you're more visible (some people are against this, saying it should only be for stopped cars... Whatever. I'm making myself as visible as possible, because thinking someone is going to slam into you causes nerves just as bad as trying to find the road). Turning your brights on can make it worse - the light shines off the snow back to you, but fog lights may help a bit. If you can get in a line of people, you can just keep slowly trucking along, but stay far from the car in front of you. Black ice is the worst kind of asshole, and you don't want to slide into the car in front of you. Also, that person may think they're driving on the road, but they're heading into the ditch. Stay back so you have time to correct and not follow them in. DO NOT FUCKING PASS. Again, black ice is an asshole. I've seen cars slide into a car they're trying to pass. Also, it can create even worse white-out situations from the snow you kick up for the people you're passing. You think you're safe because of your truck? Those can get tossed around more in the wind with icy situations. I've passed numerous semis taking a little ditch nap because they blew over. Also, if you end up behind a semi that starts tipping up because of the wind, stay WAY back. They usually don't just tip over out of nowhere. They'll be blown around before that happens, sometimes having back wheels come off the ground, slam back down, causing them to swerve. Run awaaaaayyyyyyyyy!!

[–]SLRWard[🍰] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Last time it snowed here in MN, I almost got run off the road because some complete fuckwit decided it'd be fine and dandy to drive down the MIDDLE of the highway instead of staying in their own damn lane. And it wasn't even like it was poor visibility! You had at least a mile visibility at the time and there were certainly enough cars out to see where the lanes were, not to mention the actual lanes in the snow on the road from where people had driven. But nope, this fuckwit just crusing along at, at least, 10 mph over what everyone else was doing slap in the middle of the damn highway, blowing his horn at people and making them get out of the way instead of STAYING IN THEIR OWN FUCKING LANE.

There are a lot of people out there that need to have their damn license taken away and never be allowed to drive with how bloody stupid they are.

[–]i_delete_my_history 111 points112 points  (78 children)

Somewhere like this, drive slowly to the side of the road until you feel the road surface change. Then stop.

[–]Dazzling_Many3235 214 points215 points  (42 children)

Okay, I tried this and I fell off a bridge into a freezing river. What next?

[–]Totally_TJ 109 points110 points  (30 children)

Wait till the car fills completely with water, hold your breath for the last few moments of this and then you'll be able to open the doors.

[–]Lemon_Hound 69 points70 points  (18 children)

Also, crack the windows as soon as you can, and open them completely if possible. This allows water to flow and you can open the door well before the car fills with water, and/or you can swim out through the window if necessary.

Once the water reaches window level, the pressure will make it impossible to open the windows, in which case you'll just have to hold your breath and wait.

[–]DarkwingDuckHunt 31 points32 points  (3 children)

how many lives has Mythbusters saved?

[–]Bismothe-the-Shade 5 points6 points  (8 children)

In this case you can attempt to break the glass. Not exactly easy, but ceramic tips (like in spark plugs) shatter this glass with ease. Some folks buy cheap implements or keep an old sparkplug in their car for this reason.

[–]millertime1419 10 points11 points  (1 child)

“can you pop the hood? I have to remove a spark plug so we can break the glass and not drown.”

[–]Swiftest_Scout 14 points15 points  (5 children)

Frozen river, took 3 minutes to fill, I've now got hypothermia and I can't swim due to the shock.

[–]TRASH--BOAT 37 points38 points  (3 children)

Easy. Find the coldest spot and freeze yourself as quickly as possible. Thaw out in the spring and carry on.

[–]DRYMakesMeWET 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Don't forget to pack your asshole full of pinecones first

[–]Iforgetus 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Because storms like this don’t usually go from zero to this without you knowing it. It just takes common sense and pulling over BEFORE it gets this bad.

[–]knobudee 30 points31 points  (9 children)

If you can pull over. No shoulder where I live so the ditch would suck you in and you’d be stuck.

[–]hamiltonne 10 points11 points  (7 children)

You let me know how much shoulder you think you can see. If it's a soft shoulder you'd be just as likely to get stuck in a ditch.

[–]Silver_kitty 9 points10 points  (5 children)

Better to be in a ditch than in a wreck.

My father had this exact situation happen. He had a Geo Metro and the wind was buffeting his tiny car around and the visibility was awful. He pulled to the side, but the shoulder was super narrow, so he ended up sliding into the ditch. He called my mom to let her know that he was stuck. As he was on the phone with Mom describing where he’d slid off, they heard a semi’s horn blaring as it had slid out and was drifting sideways downhill on the highway that my father had just been on. That semi slid into 3 cars on its drift. So yeah, it sucked that he had to get towed back onto the highway out of the ditch, at least he was safe and still had a functional car.

Also, my parents always keeps emergency blankets, those hand warmer packs, and food and water in the car because they live in a region with Lake Effect snow.

[–]danbronson 76 points77 points  (10 children)

And there's still a 1 / (lanes + shoulders) chance of him hitting you.

[–]xcto 238 points239 points  (16 children)

just use your GPS to navigate like pacman.
also, it helps to drive really really fast.... this way you're going faster than the snow and you can see through it.
/s in case someone is really stupid

[–]tilouswag 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Ahh yes, the Bird Box technique

[–]Reddit_FTW 115 points116 points  (20 children)

Yes. I was driving home in a bad rain storm one day. Like wipers on full can barely see in front of me. Then boom. No joke. Rain so hard I couldn’t see my hood of my car. Legit. Just rain. I just stopped. Turned on my hazards. And just braced for a crash. Maybe 5-10 seconds later it was drivable and I drove about 1-2 miles and hail. Like. HAIL. people pulling over in gas stations. I just drove home. I was done.

No one is gonna read this story. But man. I live outside chicago. I’ve driven home in legit blizzards. I’ve been gusted off the road in a snow storm. I’ve driven through floods. Funnel clouds. You name it. I’ve never been more afraid then that day. Just empty nothing you can do. And the fear that some asshole didn’t have the idea to stop. Haha. Life’s weird.

[–]fostytou 12 points13 points  (4 children)

I had that last year in a bad storm outside Denver. I knew there was a semi I had passed just a moment ago heading my way and as I started to pull towards what I thought was the shoulder a bridge came up. Lots of luck and grace that day but everything came out ok.

Better than the 3 cars flipped over just up the road after the storm had passed.

[–]Reddit_FTW 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Bro. People are just so self centered. It’s not worth it. I’d rather be late then never show up.

[–]nicolauz 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I do snowplowing up in Wisconsin. The number of insane people on the freeway in this weather is not zero. I've seen dumbasses tailgating a freeway plow with a double lane plow going 40 in a blizzard at 2am just waiting for them to fly in the ditch. Its usually the after storms you see all the ditch heros.

[–]soulqveen- 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That sounds like some bad rain we got a few months back in Baltimore. My fiancé and I were on our way back from Home Depot and I promised to drive back because he drove there and neither of us like driving anywhere. But I’m driving for no less than a few minutes, home is only 10-15 minutes away. It starts POURING down raining. Like POURING. The streets were flooding because it had been raining earlier that day. I couldn’t see anything at all. I have anxiety so I panic very quickly and quite literally froze up at the wheel because I felt as though I was blind. I couldn’t focus on anything but the wall of gray I could see all around me and my fiancé had to turn on my hazards for me and talked me through driving slowly until we got to a gas station where we could switch. We passed so many car accidents that day and almost hit so many cars because he was too stubborn to just sit down at the gas station and wait for the storm to pass.

And then the sun had the AUDACITY to reappear the minute we hit our home street and I was just so upset.

[–]ghostone1 11 points12 points  (3 children)

I live in the desert and the protocol for a sandstorm is to get to the side of the road, stop, and turn off your lights and wait it out. There’s even road signs that remind people to do those things if they’re caught in a sandstorm. I think that turning off your lights is to prevent people from thinking they’re driving behind you; to avoid the impression that you’re still you’re still driving in one of the road lanes.

[–]NukaDadd 91 points92 points  (34 children)

No, for the love of God don't just "stop" (if you're on a highway). By the time a semi sees you it'll be too late. Get off the highway, then stop.

If you have to stop on a highway, try to be under a bridge & as far away from the shoulder as possible.

[–]ljshea1 49 points50 points  (26 children)

How are you supposed to navigate off the highway.. Also why would a semi be barreling down the road at high speed in zero visibility. Yeah youre at risk for an accident but anyone going over 10 mph in something like this is a psycho

[–]NukaDadd 33 points34 points  (16 children)

Very carefully.

why would a semi be barreling down the road at high speed

They likely wouldn't (semi driver here). That being said, you'd be surprised how much damage 80,000lb can do to you at even a low rate of speed.

Car crushers & trash compactors move slower than 10mph. It's the psi that gets you.

[–]RolandIce 30 points31 points  (9 children)

This would probably be on a country road, I've been in this situation many times. It depends on where you are and where you are going.

If you are going away from civilization, on your way up a mountain pass or an unknown potentially dangerous area you turn around and try to inch your way to safety.

If you are going down, or towards civilization you try to keep going.

The road markers in snowy countries usually have high vis plastic poles evert few hundred meters. You try to look for them, where the poles are on your right, with the reflective stripes down towards you. //

You drive as slowly as possible while you still have traction and clearance.

If you are unable to get to safety you stop and wait in the car. Conserve fuel, don't run the motor the whole time to keep the lights and heat on, that should be reserved for emergency. Also because in rare cases the car might fill with carbon monoxide and you fall asleep never to wake up.
You put on all the clothes you have, put on a blanket or anything. Start the car periodically if it gets really cold but the good thing about blizzards is that because of the fast moving wind they are not very cold. If you are dry you will be OK. Never, EVER leave the car for help, that's how people die.

Driving inside a glass of milk can be terrifying but you get used to it.

[–]xtelosx 8 points9 points  (0 children)

To add to this if you do have to run the vehicle dig out your tail pipe periodically. Obviously if it is a crazy active squall just avoid running the vehicle but if the worst of it has passed and you are still stuck and cold dig out the tail pipe as much as possible so you aren't filling your vehicle with carbon monoxide.

Having a snow country kit with a foldable shovel, some blankets and some food/bottled water is a good idea. First aid and a hazard sign or flare can should be in your car already but if not put that in there.

[–]fred-is-not-here 15 points16 points  (6 children)

I would try to get behind something big, a truck, a bus, ideally a snowplow

[–]tylercreatesworlds 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Depending on how long this goes, keeping the car running can be dangerous. If snow builds up behind the exhaust you'll have a nice flow of CO gas into your cabin.

[–]megamanxzero35 13 points14 points  (0 children)

For this situation the wind is blowing way to fast for build up like that. At least 32 years of leaving in Iowa has taught me that.

[–]justa_flesh_wound 1412 points1413 points  (130 children)

This is a White-out. Keep moving, ride the rumble-strips if you have to. Turn on the Hazard lights. If you stop you will more than likely be ran into. Keep moving until you drive out of it or find someplace safe to stop. The highway isn't safe to stop on.

I'm from Northern Michigan and been through similar a few times.

[–]UhPhrasing 126 points127 points  (18 children)

ride the rumble-strips if you have to

what a great tip to maintain your lane awareness!

[–]justa_flesh_wound 58 points59 points  (5 children)

It's nerve-racking but you stay on the road.

[–]bcfolz 11 points12 points  (1 child)

until the rumble strips get covered in snow

[–]GSM_Heathen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Helps with traction somewhat too!

[–]qualiman 14 points15 points  (7 children)

In Iceland we have reflectors on the sides of the road in areas where this is common.

If you are used to this weather, one trick is to turn your highbeams on.

Your visibility decreases because of the reflection from the snow, but you can make out the reflectors better, so you have at least some idea of where the road is.

[–]Ohthehumanityofit 406 points407 points  (42 children)

I, too, am from Northern Michigan, and can confirm this. I used to have to drive about 50 miles down I-75 to get to/from work, and when the shit starts blowing like this, it gets scary real quick. All you can rely on is everyone going slow and steadily. If you stop, we're allllllll fucked.

[–]toweler 182 points183 points  (31 children)

I've never driven snow so forgive my ignorance...

But why is the strategy to slowly drive blind instead of come to a stop?

[–]kermitboi9000 298 points299 points  (18 children)

Stopping on a highway is a good way to get destroyed by some idiot going 60 mph in white out conditions because they just HAVE to get where they’re going

[–]tehlemmings 209 points210 points  (14 children)

Or by a plow that can't see you after you're buried lol

Plus you generally have no way of knowing how much snow you're going to get. It's often better to take the risk of ridding the rumble strips back to town instead of being stuck in the middle of no where.

[–]kermitboi9000 38 points39 points  (7 children)

Wasn’t there a myth busters episode where a guy got split in half by a plow? Or maybe the car or something. Well, either way it doesn’t sound like a fun time lmao

[–]czcaruso 28 points29 points  (2 children)

Pretty sure that was the episode were they tried to flip a car using the air a plow truck would be pushing to the side

[–]Fallout97 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My friend’s car got hit by a plow and totalled in a scenario like that. Got stuck in a sparsely populated lake region and had to bail on the car. Left it just off the road. Car was buried in snow a day or two later and BAM. Now they have reflectors on the side of that road haha

What a shit show that was.

[–]justa_flesh_wound 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Think of it a bit like a train. if you are stuck on the tracks and the train sees you it is already too late, takes them a long time to stop.

In low visibility on slick roads same deal. If someone sees you it is too late. try to stop and they slide all over then someone hits them and the pileup continues, like the cops that chase the blues brothers.

[–]GenericLuchador 40 points41 points  (3 children)

Another Northern Michigan snow person, one thing that really helps me too is having my gsp on if possible, even if I know where I'm going, just to know when curves in the road are coming up.

Not a lot scarier that driving and not being able to see most the road or any lines and so much snow flying by you you can't tell if you're actually moving or not.

[–]justa_flesh_wound 18 points19 points  (1 child)

It's worse on county roads too, then you have oncoming traffic. for a whole new level of butt puckering.

[–]ElFrescoSteven 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ah yes! Two lane road. One set of tire tracks through the snow covered road. And on-coming lights! Let's play. Who's lane is it anyways! (Just pray you're both going slow enough to move away from each other without going into a ditch!)

[–]FromGreat2Good 9 points10 points  (3 children)

How fast should we be going?

[–]Sentientnoodlebowl 32 points33 points  (0 children)

That's dependant on many factors, such as what type of car you're driving, if there's ice under the snow, how deep the snow you're driving through is, etc. Generally speaking, if there's any sort of ice on the ground underneath the snow, and it's a whiteout condition, you should probably be going around 20mph regardless of the type of vehicle your driving. If there's no ice, but quickly accumulating deep snow, you'll probably want to be going faster at around 30mph to ensure you don't get stuck, especially if you're driving a 2-wheel drive car.

Honestly it's really all about paying attention to how your car feels in the snow. Here are some examples:

Is it skidding? time to slow down. Lightly ease your foot off the gas. DO NOT slam on your brakes under any circumstances.

Is the car drifting left/right? time to slow down, and/or be more mindful about staying in the tracks on the road if there are any. Again, don't slam on your brakes, you can either take your foot off the gas or lightly tap your brakes.

Do I feel resistance and like the car is slowing down on its own? time to lightly speed up to power through the accumulating snow. Emphasis on lightly. If you gas it too hard you will either dig in your tires or go skidding off the road.

Hope this helps! Grew up in a rural area of a very snowy part of the North East.

[–]justa_flesh_wound 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sounds a little silly, but feel how the car is handling on the road. Be comfortable. Just keep moving until you can find a safe place to pull off.

[–]18433481 776 points777 points  (104 children)

I hope you managed to get off the road and you ain’t just sitting there hoping not to get plowed into by a semi

[–]NukaDadd 656 points657 points  (102 children)

Semi driver here, smart move. If you do HAVE to travel on the road in these conditions... please use your hazard lights. Do NOT stop on the highway. Anywhere.

The lines on the road are non-existent so even being on the shoulder isn't wise. Keep moving until you're in a safe place to wait it out.

On ramps are safer than off ramps. Folks aren't already doing highway speeds when coming down the on-ramp. If you're on the shoulder to an exit & someone slides while taking an exit, you probably won't live to learn from your mistake.

[–]Assupoika 269 points270 points  (70 children)

On ramps are safer than off ramps. Folks aren't already doing highway speeds when coming down the on-ramp. If you're on the shoulder to an exit & someone slides while taking an exit, you probably won't live to learn from your mistake.

Are people really so dumb and/or suicidal that they insist on driving highway speeds with zero visibility?

Why am I even asking? Of course they are...

[–]hell2pay 196 points197 points  (40 children)

Yes. Absolutely they are.

I've been in white out a couple of times. Once was on I80, and truckers were blazing normal speed of 75 mph.

Figured I might die that day.

[–]mickey_s 98 points99 points  (19 children)

I’ve driven through Wyoming in white out conditions. Only thing I could do was get behind a semi and follow their lights. Those crazy truckers led me out of the storm that night

[–]un_internaute 42 points43 points  (11 children)

On the Ohio Turnpike near Cleveland, they get some crazy lake effect snow. I've been in a line of thirty plus cars following behind one semi or snow plow multiple times driving through there.

[–]rockne 28 points29 points  (6 children)

Following 100 ft behind the snow plow is the safest, shittiest place to drive on earth. Yes you won’t die, but man are you going slow.

[–]Stuffthatpig 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I had took an off ramp and then on ramp to get ahead of a snow plow one time. There was about 4-5 inches on i 95 (i think...through the center of mass from Connecticut) and they were shutting down mass at 3. I crossed the New Hampshire/Vermont border at 2:55. I wouldn't have made it if I had stayed behind the plow.

It was February 2013...Nemo maybe?

[–]VioletJane 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Its because they sit up high, closer to the sun. It melts the snow up there and they can see! God works miracles! /s

[–]matthewkyleshirley 13 points14 points  (3 children)

I ain't gonna listen to a guy who ain't even a FULL driver /s

[–]pierfel4 20 points21 points  (2 children)

I dealt with this for two winters. White puts a crazy! People driving on them are crazy. You’re almost forced to be crazy yourself or you risk being hit. The roads where I live have rumble strips in the middle and on the sides to let you know you’re position. I’ve only witnessed twice that bad of a white out driving condition... I’d probably play gtfo of the road game.

[–]mike91188 273 points274 points  (28 children)

As a minnesotan, I can confirm that I've seen horizontal snowing and zero visibility.

[–]AskMeHowsItGoing 63 points64 points  (5 children)

How could you have seen it with zero visibility? Your story doesn't add up. You're shook up, and nervous, sitting on a throne of lies! BOOOOOoooooooo...

[–]megamanxzero35 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Iowan. Yep. Maybe haven’t driven in anything this bad with zero visibility. But it’s been close.

[–]RAGNES7 97 points98 points  (10 children)

At first i thought this was plane Cockpit

Stay safe man, it be cold outside

[–]Meior 36 points37 points  (5 children)

Always remember to pull over your plane and turn on your hazards.

[–]RAGNES7 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Yeah man, Gotta keep the Planes behind me alerted that i have stopped in the middle of the sk....oh wait

falls down like a brick

[–]Floridaman12517 265 points266 points  (53 children)

At least you have a full tank. Smart thinking.

[–]bdiz81 146 points147 points  (46 children)

Winter safety. Full tank of gas and an emergency kit in the vehicle.

[–]becauseiloveyou 83 points84 points  (34 children)

And crack a window every now and then! You CAN die from carbon monoxide exposure in situations like these.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/carbon-monoxide-snowed-in-car/

[–]bdiz81 34 points35 points  (25 children)

Also keep the exhaust pipe from getting plugged.

[–]EyeFicksIt 34 points35 points  (23 children)

Electric car win

[–]LtDanUSAFX3 31 points32 points  (14 children)

I've ways wondered how long fully charged batteries would keep you warm if you weren't moving in an electric car. If it's longer or shorter than a similar gas powered car

[–]Blueacid 42 points43 points  (4 children)

Search YouTube for Teslabjorn. He's done camping trips in electric cars to discover the answer to precisely this.

Short answer is: it heavily depends on a lot of factors, but you should be able to last 20 hours in something like a Tesla Model 3, leaving a chunk of battery to get you to the next charger.

[–]Fozzymandius 11 points12 points  (3 children)

I didn’t realize he’d made a new video for the heat pump model 3. With what appears to be custom made window insulation blankets the car lost 20% state of charge in 7 hours at 14F below 0. It seems like it would last long enough to get you rescued if you were stuck somewhere at least which is nice. And he was watching YouTube videos for part of the time too.

[–]EyeFicksIt 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I know I can sit in an electric car with the ac on for about a day and a half, I would be curious if heat drained it as quickly . Tesla motor club says it will last 50 hours in camp mode

[–]MrsSalmalin 10 points11 points  (6 children)

I am a first-time car owner and I live in a snowy part of Canada. I realised I needed an emergency kit in my car so I started putting stuff together. Warm stuff, food stuff, way to heat up food stuff, First Aid Kit...then I realised I should just shove my camping gear in a box in the back. It's perfect! If I ever need to pull over on the side of the road and spend the night, I am SET! I even have my GPS beacon because the reception can get spotty.

[–]duffismyhomie 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Worked in North Dakota for 4 years, never let my tank get below half for this reason. Never know when help can get to you if you get stuck on or off the road!

[–]Lunar_Lunacy_Stuff 54 points55 points  (11 children)

I live in south Arizona and this legit looks amazing but also very scary.

[–]llortotekili 37 points38 points  (2 children)

It's a very dangerous situation for sure. You might have other idiots driving way too fast that hit you. You may get stuck miles from anywhere, run out of gas and freeze to death, or you might get carbon monoxide poisoning. If you leave your vehicle you will more than likely freeze to death because you have no idea what direction to go to get to shelter. Your best bet is to keep moving slowly and hope to feel the rumble strips on the sides and center of the road. Usually in this situation a train of cars will form that moves together until they hit a safe destination to get off the road.

[–]duffismyhomie 7 points8 points  (0 children)

White out can be super disorienting! Usually in regions where they can have white out conditions, there are tall road markers that are more visible on either side of the road that you can see still and use those to drive until you find a safe place to pull off and wait out the storm. It can be easy to think you’re in a lane until the road curves and you drive straight into a snow bank and get stuck. Always make sure you have at least half a tank of gas incase you get stuck and have to wait for rescue.

[–]Ramza_Claus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We get those haboobies out here. Similar visibility issues. No sledding tho.

[–]8ackwoods 98 points99 points  (42 children)

Where my Atlantic Canadians at lol

[–]landonmeh 61 points62 points  (31 children)

This seems like it coulda been from southern sask, we had a crazy blizzard last night

[–]Deathbysnusnubooboo 46 points47 points  (20 children)

Confirmed, I did some snooping and OP is from Saskatoon

[–]bdiz81 26 points27 points  (11 children)

I figured it was Saskatoon. Majority of the province got hit hard yesterday. Saskatoon got hit with the wind the worst I think.

[–]ItsCleatus 13 points14 points  (6 children)

Kindersley had 100km winds yesterday. News said it was the worst there

[–]bdiz81 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's wild

[–]rydog11111 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Peaked at just over 150kmph yesterday/last night

[–]Dudegamer010901 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The royal bank in Regina was on fucking fire this morning lmao. And there was a Christmas tree in the power lines

[–]lovelyb1ch66 53 points54 points  (25 children)

Throw on your 4-way flashers, keep moving until you find a safe place to pull over. Don’t pull over on the shoulder, you risk getting stuck, especially with winds like that. Slow and steady usually gets you where you’re going. Worst blizzard I’ve ever driven through had snowdrifts that came up to the hood, had to power through and hope they weren’t too wide.

[–]whutwat 25 points26 points  (22 children)

how do u keep moving when you can't even see if you are driving straight

[–]tehlemmings 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Rumble strips are a godsend, if they're not too buried.

You can often times tell where the sides of the road are, even if you can't see anything else. Because the sides of the road tend to either have a ditch, which would give you a drop off, or snow build up from previous storms. Stay in the flat line and you might be good.

[–]lovelyb1ch66 22 points23 points  (18 children)

Turn off your high beams, you have better visibility with your lows. Put yourself as close to the middle of the road as you can, you can usually (unless you’re out on the prairies or tundra, in that case, good luck) find some sort of reference points along the way, mile markers, trees, driveway markers, vehicles in the ditch etc.

[–]commazero 15 points16 points  (14 children)

That's all easier said than done when you can't see the road.

[–]chiniwini 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I once got caught under a rain storm so severe I couldn't see the hood of my car. I literally stopped where I was (this was in a city).

[–]lovelyb1ch66 9 points10 points  (5 children)

Easy, no. Doable, yes, most of the time. I live in Canada so I’ve got some experience with driving in snow.

[–]commazero 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Also canadian and very confident driving in snow. But it's very difficult to drive in any condition WHEN YOU CAN'T SEE THE ROAD.

[–]Deathbysnusnubooboo 42 points43 points  (6 children)

Was this Saskatchewan yesterday, cause holy shit did we get slapped last night

[–]dovanick 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I think I was the only one on my street that put my recycling bin in the garage. Cardboard boxes everywhere this morning.

[–]jr8787 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Needs Sandstorm playing in the background to be the complete experience

[–]Gingersnap5322 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Nah you need Im Gonna Be (500 miles) by the proclaimers on loop

[–]Stormcrow86 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It comes back around

[–]Shalamarr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"I hate this song!"

"... give it a few minutes. It'll come back around."

[–]Garden_Suitable 10 points11 points  (8 children)

I wonder if you used a FLIR camera... if you could see through this. Granted the road wouldn't be clearly defined, but you'd probably be able to proceed.

[–]vastros 37 points38 points  (12 children)

Normal Thursday in North Dakota.

[–]Fluid_Word1473 16 points17 points  (8 children)

Or at least it used to be! Haven’t had enough snow in Western ND to do anything at all this year

[–]vastros 7 points8 points  (6 children)

I'm on the other side of the state, and damn right we haven't. We had how many blizzards last year?7? I'm good.

[–]Philbert_1 14 points15 points  (4 children)

Expected to see a BMW wiz by.

[–]Meior 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Or if you live in Scandinavia, a 30 year old Volvo going by sideways (on purpose).

[–]TheManFromFarAway 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Is this Saskatchewan? We had blizzards with 120 km/he winds last night

[–]creative_user_name69 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Saskatchewan eh?